U.S.-China Surveillance

CNN journalist John Vause today is reporting a meeting with Chinese hackers in Zhoushan city who say they have hacked into sensitive computer systems all over the world, including the Pentagon. Although the hackers claim to have been paid by the Chinese government, they could just as easily have been acting independently. Below are some excerpts and a link to the full story. It will be interesting to see if and how this story plays in the broader MSM and whether it will be used to argue for greater US government monitoring of the Internet.

Arranging a meeting with the hackers took weeks of on-again, off-again e-mail exchanges. When they finally agreed, CNN was told to meet them on the island of Zhoushan, just south of Shanghai and a major port for China’s navy.

The apartment has cement floors and almost no furniture. What they do have are three of the latest computers. They are cautious when it comes to naming the Web sites they have hacked.

But eventually Xiao Chen claims two of his colleagues — not the ones with him in the room — have hacked into the Pentagon and downloaded information, although he wouldn’t specify what was gleaned. CNN has no way to confirm if his claim is true.

“They would not publicize this,” he says of someone who hacks the U.S. Defense Department. “It is very sensitive.”

This week, the Pentagon said computer networks in the United States, Germany, Britain and France were hit last year by what they call “multiple intrusions,” many of them originating from China.

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Beijing hit back at that, denying such an allegation and calling on the United States to provide proof. “If they have any evidence, I hope they would provide it. Then, we can cooperate on this issue,” Qin Gang, a spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, said during a regular press briefing this week.

But Xiao Chen says after the alleged Pentagon attack, his colleagues were paid by the Chinese government. Again, CNN has no way to independently confirm if that is true.

His allegations brought strenuous denials from Beijing. “I am telling you honestly, the Chinese government does not do such a thing,” Qin said.

But if Xiao Chen is telling the truth, it appears his colleagues launched a freelance attack — not initiated by Beijing, but paid for after the fact. “These hacker groups in my opinion are not agents of the Chinese state,” says James Mulvenon from the Center for Intelligence Research and Analysis, which works with the U.S. intelligence community.

“They are sort of useful idiots for the Beijing regime.”

He adds, “These young hackers are tolerated by the regime provided that they do not conduct attacks inside of China.”

Full story.